Taylor Swift’s ‘Evermore’: Let’s Focus on


Less than five months after Taylor Swift’s surprising release of “Folklore”, which she conceived and recorded entirely in pandemic isolation, her follow-up album “Evermore” appears, on which she collaborates with many of the same employees, including Aaron Dessner. Jack Antonoff and Justin Vernon.

Swift continues the sonic and lyrical approaches of “folklore”: writing about subjects other than yourself, trying your hand at production more abstruse than the pop music that made it famous.

On this week’s popcast, a talk about the year at Taylor Swift and the way “Evermore” deepened Swift’s departure from conventional pop – but how long?


  • Joe Coscarelli, popular music reporter for the New York Times

  • Caryn Ganz, pop music editor for the New York Times

  • Jon Pareles, the New York Times’ chief popular music critic